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	<title>Comments on: Fat People are Killing the Polar Bears</title>
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		<title>By: assdffg</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2007/07/fat-people-are-killing-polar-bears-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>assdffg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, fat people do eat more. You can prove it for yourself scientifically by doing a prospective study. As you walk along any city street, observe the people who are stuffing their faces and categorize them as fat or not-fat. Compare with a randomly selected control group. If you still don&#039;t believe it, ask yourself what is wrong with the dieter&#039;s lament &quot;No matter what I eat, I still can&#039;t lose weight&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, fat people do eat more. You can prove it for yourself scientifically by doing a prospective study. As you walk along any city street, observe the people who are stuffing their faces and categorize them as fat or not-fat. Compare with a randomly selected control group. If you still don&#8217;t believe it, ask yourself what is wrong with the dieter&#8217;s lament &#8220;No matter what I eat, I still can&#8217;t lose weight&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: editors</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2007/07/fat-people-are-killing-polar-bears-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>editors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cft said: &lt;i&gt;&#039;You are very selective in your quoting of the New Scientist article. It notes that: &quot;The researchers, including Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, published their findings as a &quot;viewpoint&quot;, which is not peer-reviewed.&quot;&#039;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nope. We were quoting from a New Scientist article published on 1 July 2007 (link in post). I think you must be referring to a piece from 28 October 2007. Still, ta for the pointer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cft said: <i>&#8216;You are very selective in your quoting of the New Scientist article. It notes that: &#8220;The researchers, including Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, published their findings as a &#8220;viewpoint&#8221;, which is not peer-reviewed.&#8221;&#8216;</i></p>
<p>Nope. We were quoting from a New Scientist article published on 1 July 2007 (link in post). I think you must be referring to a piece from 28 October 2007. Still, ta for the pointer.</p>
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		<title>By: CFT</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2007/07/fat-people-are-killing-polar-bears-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>CFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are very selective in your quoting of the New Scientist article. It notes that: &quot;The researchers, including Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, published their findings as a &quot;viewpoint&quot;, which is not peer-reviewed.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The research hardly conforms to your description of the scientific method: &quot;Scientific findings flourish or fail by the cold, objective, rational method of hypothesis testing, peer review and replication.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are very selective in your quoting of the New Scientist article. It notes that: &#8220;The researchers, including Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, published their findings as a &#8220;viewpoint&#8221;, which is not peer-reviewed.&#8221;</p>
<p>The research hardly conforms to your description of the scientific method: &#8220;Scientific findings flourish or fail by the cold, objective, rational method of hypothesis testing, peer review and replication.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple. Feed the fat people to the polar bears. Very tasty, as bears are known to eat seals.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Paging Mr Gore... Paging Michael Moore... :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple. Feed the fat people to the polar bears. Very tasty, as bears are known to eat seals.</p>
<p>Paging Mr Gore&#8230; Paging Michael Moore&#8230; <img src='http://www.climate-resistance.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the other way around with this dilemma? If GW causes the weather to get too hot for people to safely walk outdoors and so we will all be sitting inside on our duffs getting fat in front of the tv and air conditioner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the other way around with this dilemma? If GW causes the weather to get too hot for people to safely walk outdoors and so we will all be sitting inside on our duffs getting fat in front of the tv and air conditioner.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This column is really biased on thier data.  Do they really think that the use of a vehicle uses as much &quot;fossil&quot; fuel as our politician do flying those huge jets around the country and to different parts of the world.  If the GW thing is true, why is it that Al Gore covers his &quot;six&quot; by saying he is paying offsets into a company that he owns; and then continues to drive his huge SUVs and flys the jets?  It is a lie.  Americans are just too complacent to get off their &quot;sixes&quot; and do the   work necessary to make some changes.  And then there is the China problem; they did not sign the treaty and they produce more greenhouse gases than the rest of the world!  Come on folks, wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This column is really biased on thier data.  Do they really think that the use of a vehicle uses as much &#8220;fossil&#8221; fuel as our politician do flying those huge jets around the country and to different parts of the world.  If the GW thing is true, why is it that Al Gore covers his &#8220;six&#8221; by saying he is paying offsets into a company that he owns; and then continues to drive his huge SUVs and flys the jets?  It is a lie.  Americans are just too complacent to get off their &#8220;sixes&#8221; and do the   work necessary to make some changes.  And then there is the China problem; they did not sign the treaty and they produce more greenhouse gases than the rest of the world!  Come on folks, wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nicklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Nicklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real problem is that people think New Scientist is a credible source of science reporting, it isn&#039;t. The writers are biased to one opinion, their own and fail to see any other point of view. The magazine, I won&#039;t dignify it by calling it a journal, engages in name calling and debunking through guilt by association. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But they do know wat is good for us. The clear sign of a zealot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real problem is that people think New Scientist is a credible source of science reporting, it isn&#8217;t. The writers are biased to one opinion, their own and fail to see any other point of view. The magazine, I won&#8217;t dignify it by calling it a journal, engages in name calling and debunking through guilt by association. </p>
<p>But they do know wat is good for us. The clear sign of a zealot.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Quote] &quot;I think there is definitely a lot of linkage between obesity and GW: Both are designed to scare us into conforming and both are based upon flimsy &quot;science&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The other link, as obliquely implied in this quote, is that both issues are exploited by cynical and dirigiste politicians who are bent on misrepresenting the issues in order to bolster their own careers and further their political goals. The &quot;Holier-than-thou Health Nazis&quot; are natural bedfellows of the &quot;Do-as-I-say, not-as-I-do Climate Change Nazis&quot;, so this new development should come as no surprise to us. These People Know What Is Best For Us. They Know They Do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Quote] &#8220;I think there is definitely a lot of linkage between obesity and GW: Both are designed to scare us into conforming and both are based upon flimsy &#8220;science&#8221;.</p>
<p>The other link, as obliquely implied in this quote, is that both issues are exploited by cynical and dirigiste politicians who are bent on misrepresenting the issues in order to bolster their own careers and further their political goals. The &#8220;Holier-than-thou Health Nazis&#8221; are natural bedfellows of the &#8220;Do-as-I-say, not-as-I-do Climate Change Nazis&#8221;, so this new development should come as no surprise to us. These People Know What Is Best For Us. They Know They Do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Foulsham</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2007/07/fat-people-are-killing-polar-bears-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Foulsham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,&lt;br/&gt;I think there is definitely a lot of linkage between obesity and GW: Both are designed to scare us into conforming and both are based upon flimsy &quot;science&quot;.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They both seem to fall into the trap that &quot;correlation = causation&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And despite what politicians tell us, obesity is a moral judgement not a health issue as of course is Climate Change.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Personally, my hypothesis, also untested, is that fat people don&#039;t eat 40% more (I believe there are several studies showing that food consumption in calories hasn&#039;t changed much in the UK, and anyway, these show food purchased rather than consumed)  but that actually they exercise 40% less, thus earning a net saving in CO2 over all those people pounding the streets and the Gyms.  Now if only I could get my mate colin to review that I could get it published in New Scientist.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If these people want to make us consume less overall, I suggest they lead by example and sit in a darkened room for a few years with very little to eat or drink (perhaps join a monastery) and let us live and enjoy our lives.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nice articles by the way.  Can&#039;t believe I am the first to comment.  I reckon there are loads of comments all queued up, probably all claiming that you are anti-christ deniers of science and in the pay of &quot;Big Oil&quot;.  Better get a thick skin. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />I think there is definitely a lot of linkage between obesity and GW: Both are designed to scare us into conforming and both are based upon flimsy &#8220;science&#8221;.  </p>
<p>They both seem to fall into the trap that &#8220;correlation = causation&#8221;. </p>
<p>And despite what politicians tell us, obesity is a moral judgement not a health issue as of course is Climate Change.</p>
<p>Personally, my hypothesis, also untested, is that fat people don&#8217;t eat 40% more (I believe there are several studies showing that food consumption in calories hasn&#8217;t changed much in the UK, and anyway, these show food purchased rather than consumed)  but that actually they exercise 40% less, thus earning a net saving in CO2 over all those people pounding the streets and the Gyms.  Now if only I could get my mate colin to review that I could get it published in New Scientist.</p>
<p>If these people want to make us consume less overall, I suggest they lead by example and sit in a darkened room for a few years with very little to eat or drink (perhaps join a monastery) and let us live and enjoy our lives.</p>
<p>Nice articles by the way.  Can&#8217;t believe I am the first to comment.  I reckon there are loads of comments all queued up, probably all claiming that you are anti-christ deniers of science and in the pay of &#8220;Big Oil&#8221;.  Better get a thick skin. <img src='http://www.climate-resistance.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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