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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Science&#8217; &#8211; Environmentalism&#8217;s Fig Leaf</title>
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		<title>By: Ayrdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayrdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post. A great resource, thanks...</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like roberts is putting forward an excuse for the failure of the AGW argument before it has happened. The excuse being that the AGW believers used &quot;science&quot; but the &quot;sceptics&quot; used that filthy thing called &quot;politics&quot;. This only tends to happen when one knows that they are wrong, and the argument is lost, but is too embarrassed to admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like roberts is putting forward an excuse for the failure of the AGW argument before it has happened. The excuse being that the AGW believers used &#8220;science&#8221; but the &#8220;sceptics&#8221; used that filthy thing called &#8220;politics&#8221;. This only tends to happen when one knows that they are wrong, and the argument is lost, but is too embarrassed to admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ideology is not a victimless crime. The debate (or lack thereof) is one thing, vast human suffering and mass murder are quite another. The connection between ideological movements of the 20th Century and 100 million murders is undeniable. Are we prepared for the rise of such evil again? Do we know it when we see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideology is not a victimless crime. The debate (or lack thereof) is one thing, vast human suffering and mass murder are quite another. The connection between ideological movements of the 20th Century and 100 million murders is undeniable. Are we prepared for the rise of such evil again? Do we know it when we see it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What keeps coming back like zombies from a 70s B movie is neomarxist Lefties ( a la Obama&#039;s campaign staff in Houston, TX with their giant Che Guevarra posters)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Economic centralized control has effectively been shown to be a logical fallacy since Ronald Reagan&#039;s day. The Soviets imploded, the Berlin Wall fell, China, though totalitarian, tossed the Little Red Book and embraced the free-market. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By 1990 the ideologically bankrupt Left didn&#039;t have a leg to stand upon while casting stones at market economies and property rights because their theories, both social and economic, were thoroughly discredited. Note that the genocidal and anti-democratic practices of their heroes--Mao, Che, Lenin and Ho Chi Minh--never has deterred the zoombie Left in Western democracies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then along comes the myth of an impending Climate Apocalypse caused by the great evil of rampant wealth-creation, consumerism and especially the high living standard of Fat American suburbanite bourgeois. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How cool is that for long dead and buried Leftist zoombies? Suddenly, they are rising from the grave with a new religion and a scientific-sounding dogma completely separate, but compatible, with their decaying Marxist flesh. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once again they can assault the now globalized market economy from a sanctimonious high ground. This time instead of saving the workers of the world from evil capitalist overlords they are going to save the whole bloody planet Earth from eminent destruction wrought by the same wealth-creating villains. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Only today, the average bloke with a two car garage, a mutual fund portfolio and a mortgage is the villain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the zombies are the same. And just like in the bad old Internationale days, a totalitarian phase may be necessary to Save the Earth because the decadent democracies are addicted to economic growth. Centralized control of all energy usage will be mandatory to avoid The Coming Climate Apocalypse. The back door to seizing property is to first seize control of energy usage through corrupt carbon trading cons and punitive taxation.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And of course freedom to express skeptical positions on global warming will have to be curbed, as a form of hate speech, like Holocaust denial is in Germany. Naturally, no one advocates such policies in plain English. Yet. Or do they?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Change, Yes We Can!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What keeps coming back like zombies from a 70s B movie is neomarxist Lefties ( a la Obama&#8217;s campaign staff in Houston, TX with their giant Che Guevarra posters)</p>
<p>Economic centralized control has effectively been shown to be a logical fallacy since Ronald Reagan&#8217;s day. The Soviets imploded, the Berlin Wall fell, China, though totalitarian, tossed the Little Red Book and embraced the free-market. </p>
<p>By 1990 the ideologically bankrupt Left didn&#8217;t have a leg to stand upon while casting stones at market economies and property rights because their theories, both social and economic, were thoroughly discredited. Note that the genocidal and anti-democratic practices of their heroes&#8211;Mao, Che, Lenin and Ho Chi Minh&#8211;never has deterred the zoombie Left in Western democracies.</p>
<p>Then along comes the myth of an impending Climate Apocalypse caused by the great evil of rampant wealth-creation, consumerism and especially the high living standard of Fat American suburbanite bourgeois. </p>
<p>How cool is that for long dead and buried Leftist zoombies? Suddenly, they are rising from the grave with a new religion and a scientific-sounding dogma completely separate, but compatible, with their decaying Marxist flesh. </p>
<p>Once again they can assault the now globalized market economy from a sanctimonious high ground. This time instead of saving the workers of the world from evil capitalist overlords they are going to save the whole bloody planet Earth from eminent destruction wrought by the same wealth-creating villains. </p>
<p>Only today, the average bloke with a two car garage, a mutual fund portfolio and a mortgage is the villain.</p>
<p>But the zombies are the same. And just like in the bad old Internationale days, a totalitarian phase may be necessary to Save the Earth because the decadent democracies are addicted to economic growth. Centralized control of all energy usage will be mandatory to avoid The Coming Climate Apocalypse. The back door to seizing property is to first seize control of energy usage through corrupt carbon trading cons and punitive taxation.  </p>
<p>And of course freedom to express skeptical positions on global warming will have to be curbed, as a form of hate speech, like Holocaust denial is in Germany. Naturally, no one advocates such policies in plain English. Yet. Or do they?</p>
<p>Change, Yes We Can!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nastiest views have always been found on the left.  Whether it is the Sierra Club exec director who favors the ban on DDT precisely because it causes millions to die or the 100 million who have been killed by socialists in the last 100 years, the left has always been the home of nastiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nastiest views have always been found on the left.  Whether it is the Sierra Club exec director who favors the ban on DDT precisely because it causes millions to die or the 100 million who have been killed by socialists in the last 100 years, the left has always been the home of nastiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I object to the suggestion that Nazis are &quot;right wing&quot;. Perhaps I could recommend the book &lt;i&gt;The Road To Serfdom&lt;/i&gt; for you? By the way, if you want a far right AGW believer, you could always pick Newt Gingrich (&lt;i&gt;Contract with the Earth&lt;/i&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to the suggestion that Nazis are &#8220;right wing&#8221;. Perhaps I could recommend the book <i>The Road To Serfdom</i> for you? By the way, if you want a far right AGW believer, you could always pick Newt Gingrich (<i>Contract with the Earth</i>).</p>
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