Comments on: Environ Mental Ism http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html Challenging Climate Orthodoxy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:47:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Daniel McGrath http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-407 Daniel McGrath Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:23:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-407 Well, you are certainly getting about ain't you! Good luck with this site. I like the snappy snarkotic tone. Well, you are certainly getting about ain’t you! Good luck with this site. I like the snappy snarkotic tone.

]]> By: Editors http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-406 Editors Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:33:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-406 Daniel, <br/><br/>Good to hear from you after all these years. It is indeed the same Ben. <br/><br/>The email address is working. It is a bit fussy though. Daniel,

Good to hear from you after all these years. It is indeed the same Ben.

The email address is working. It is a bit fussy though.

]]> By: Tiger http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-405 Tiger Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:43:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-405 "Nature as harmonious and peaceful?"<br/><br/>The "nature" these people are thinking of isn't communing with the grizzlies; what they want is an overgrown lawn where weeds are allowed to run riot.<br/><br/>They don't want the kind of nature [raw nature, REAL nature] you see on the television. They want a "tame" nature that's kind and friendly and unthreatening.<br/><br/>I'll just send them off to play Bearman with the grizzlies and cut them off from all technology for a few months and see how eager they are to get chummy with nature the next time the opportunity presents itself. “Nature as harmonious and peaceful?”

The “nature” these people are thinking of isn’t communing with the grizzlies; what they want is an overgrown lawn where weeds are allowed to run riot.

They don’t want the kind of nature [raw nature, REAL nature] you see on the television. They want a “tame” nature that’s kind and friendly and unthreatening.

I’ll just send them off to play Bearman with the grizzlies and cut them off from all technology for a few months and see how eager they are to get chummy with nature the next time the opportunity presents itself.

]]> By: Tiger http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-404 Tiger Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:36:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-404 Ah, I see.<br/><br/>We just need more green growing stuff for those of us defined as mental health cases.<br/><br/>I'll just throw out my yarn, plastic mesh, paper, pencils, pens, and all those other crafty things and go "OMMMMMMMMMMM" under some maple tree instead... ¬¬<br/><br/>Who needs crafts? What you really need is chlorophyll.<br/><br/>/sarcasm Ah, I see.

We just need more green growing stuff for those of us defined as mental health cases.

I’ll just throw out my yarn, plastic mesh, paper, pencils, pens, and all those other crafty things and go “OMMMMMMMMMMM” under some maple tree instead… ¬¬

Who needs crafts? What you really need is chlorophyll.

/sarcasm

]]> By: john a. bailo http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-403 john a. bailo Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:18:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-403 From the pages of the Seattle Times today:<br/><br/>59.2 Average temperature for the first week of June for the past 60 years<br/><br/>52.5 Average temperature for the first week of June 2008<br/><br/>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/weather/2004463516_weather07m.html From the pages of the Seattle Times today:

59.2 Average temperature for the first week of June for the past 60 years

52.5 Average temperature for the first week of June 2008

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/weather/2004463516_weather07m.html

]]> By: Robert Wood Canada http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-402 Robert Wood Canada Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:06:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-402 Dr. Bird and Dr. Fox???? My suspicions are raised.<br/><br/><i>...there is no avoiding the conclusion that urban living can damage the mental health of some people.</i><br/><br/>Yes, their disconnect with "Mother Nature" make them turn into enviro-mentalists. Dr. Bird and Dr. Fox???? My suspicions are raised.

…there is no avoiding the conclusion that urban living can damage the mental health of some people.

Yes, their disconnect with “Mother Nature” make them turn into enviro-mentalists.

]]> By: daniel mcgrath http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-401 daniel mcgrath Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:55:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-401 The contact editors email address does not work btw. The contact editors email address does not work btw.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-400 Anonymous Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:50:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-400 Not in every aspect and all points the CO2 supporters and their opponents actually disagree, as OCEANCLIMATE explains:<br/> When it comes to the term CLIMATE, the friends of IPCC, as well as their foes, are happily sailing in the same boat. While fighting a war of arguments how climate works, or may change, and what counter measures should be taken at many Billions costs, the global politics, and scientific community feel comfortable to talk about CLIMATE. Commonly it is said that ‘climate is the average weather’ (WMO, FAQ), without saying how ‘weather’ should be defined in the first place. As “climate means so many things to different people” (Carl Wunsch 1984), the climate & weather issue is discussed elsewhere (here). As a matter of fact, the whole climate change debate is not based on sound terms. but on a wild guessing what CLIMATE may be. Even the relevant global Convention on Climate Change, 1992, (UNFCCC) has none. <br/>Full text on: http://www.oceanclimate.de/ Not in every aspect and all points the CO2 supporters and their opponents actually disagree, as OCEANCLIMATE explains:
When it comes to the term CLIMATE, the friends of IPCC, as well as their foes, are happily sailing in the same boat. While fighting a war of arguments how climate works, or may change, and what counter measures should be taken at many Billions costs, the global politics, and scientific community feel comfortable to talk about CLIMATE. Commonly it is said that ‘climate is the average weather’ (WMO, FAQ), without saying how ‘weather’ should be defined in the first place. As “climate means so many things to different people” (Carl Wunsch 1984), the climate & weather issue is discussed elsewhere (here). As a matter of fact, the whole climate change debate is not based on sound terms. but on a wild guessing what CLIMATE may be. Even the relevant global Convention on Climate Change, 1992, (UNFCCC) has none.
Full text on: http://www.oceanclimate.de/

]]> By: Daniel McGrath http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-399 Daniel McGrath Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:10:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-399 Is this Ben Pile from Cheney in Oxford? <br/><br/>Anyway, yes, environmentalism has taken on some of the features of religion. <br/><br/><br/>There's also a sinister aspect to it all. <br/><br/>High Energy Prices in the US appear to be the policy for the left (maybe even the right) and what will happen is that poor people will be fleeced just to eat and move around to jobs. <br/><br/><br/>Well-off people will not suffer much as food prices increase and fuel starts to eat into tight budgets. <br/><br/>So when environmentalists say standards of living must be reduced they are talking about breaking down poor people even more than they are broken down now.<br/><br/><br/>How high energy prices as a policy good became a mantra of self respecting liberals simply boggles my mind. Is this Ben Pile from Cheney in Oxford?

Anyway, yes, environmentalism has taken on some of the features of religion.

There’s also a sinister aspect to it all.

High Energy Prices in the US appear to be the policy for the left (maybe even the right) and what will happen is that poor people will be fleeced just to eat and move around to jobs.

Well-off people will not suffer much as food prices increase and fuel starts to eat into tight budgets.

So when environmentalists say standards of living must be reduced they are talking about breaking down poor people even more than they are broken down now.

How high energy prices as a policy good became a mantra of self respecting liberals simply boggles my mind.

]]> By: Rich http://www.climate-resistance.org/2008/06/environ-mental-ism.html#comment-398 Rich Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:29:00 +0000 http://climateresistance.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/environ-mental-ism/#comment-398 "contact with nature and green space has a positive effect on mental health, especially among children."<br/><br/>For example: <a HREF="http://monologues.co.uk/Albert_and_the_Lion.htm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">The Lion and Albert</a><br/><br/>Nature as harmonious and peaceful? Have these people <i>watched</i> Springwatch?<br/><br/>Rich “contact with nature and green space has a positive effect on mental health, especially among children.”

For example: The Lion and Albert

Nature as harmonious and peaceful? Have these people watched Springwatch?

Rich

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