http://www.climate-resistance.org/2009/04/know-your-times.html Challenging Climate Orthodoxy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:47:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://www.climate-resistance.org/2009/04/know-your-times.html#comment-1425 geoff chambers Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:40:56 +0000 http://www.climate-resistance.org/?p=328#comment-1425 On the subject of the evils of being financed by Big Business: On March 31st Guardian environment editor John Vidal published an article quoting the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change, to the effect that temperatures are due rise 5-7°C this century. I commented, pointing out that the MIT Joint Program is financed by Shell, BP, and Exxon, among others, and asking what the Guardian was doing publicising propaganda financed by Big Oil. After 5 comments (3 by me) discussion was closed. Guardian Environment hasn’t referred to the MIT Joint Program since. Business puts its money where it thinks it can do itself good. I don’t think environmentalists are being falsely naive. They really don’t seem to understand this. On the subject of the evils of being financed by Big Business:
On March 31st Guardian environment editor John Vidal published an article quoting the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change, to the effect that temperatures are due rise 5-7°C this century.
I commented, pointing out that the MIT Joint Program is financed by Shell, BP, and Exxon, among others, and asking what the Guardian was doing publicising propaganda financed by Big Oil. After 5 comments (3 by me) discussion was closed. Guardian Environment hasn’t referred to the MIT Joint Program since.
Business puts its money where it thinks it can do itself good. I don’t think environmentalists are being falsely naive. They really don’t seem to understand this.

]]> http://www.climate-resistance.org/2009/04/know-your-times.html#comment-1424 Major Mike Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:59:02 +0000 http://www.climate-resistance.org/?p=328#comment-1424 We know the effects of a warmer climate: during the past 10,000 years, human civilizations have prospered during the warmer Holocene Climate Optimum (7,000 to 3,000 BC) and the Medieval Warm Period (800 to 1350 AD). Human civilizations have struggled because of reduced economic productivity, stronger storms, and plague during the colder periods, more recently the Little Ice Ages (1350 to 1850 AD). Our current warm climate is not remarkable compared to naturally warmer periods in the past 10,000 years. It is intellectual dishonesty to declare the coincidence of slightly warmer weather and increased CO2 to be a cause of catastrophy to our Earth. The one has not been proven to cause the other, and the outcomes of a warmer climate could as easily be beneficial as otherwise. Since the Earth has been much warmer during about 90% of the past 300 million years, mankind will eventually have to learn to adapt to a naturally warmer climate or perish. Mankind won't be able to stop the warming, or even more threatening, the brief but inevitable periods of cooling. We know the effects of a warmer climate: during the past 10,000 years, human civilizations have prospered during the warmer Holocene Climate Optimum (7,000 to 3,000 BC) and the Medieval Warm Period (800 to 1350 AD). Human civilizations have struggled because of reduced economic productivity, stronger storms, and plague during the colder periods, more recently the Little Ice Ages (1350 to 1850 AD). Our current warm climate is not remarkable compared to naturally warmer periods in the past 10,000 years. It is intellectual dishonesty to declare the coincidence of slightly warmer weather and increased CO2 to be a cause of catastrophy to our Earth. The one has not been proven to cause the other, and the outcomes of a warmer climate could as easily be beneficial as otherwise. Since the Earth has been much warmer during about 90% of the past 300 million years, mankind will eventually have to learn to adapt to a naturally warmer climate or perish. Mankind won’t be able to stop the warming, or even more threatening, the brief but inevitable periods of cooling.

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