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	<title>Comments on: Future-Present Imperfect Imperative</title>
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		<title>By: John Bailo</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2009/08/future-present-imperfect-imperative.html/comment-page-1#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bailo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a more devious way to look at the word &quot;climate&quot; itself.

What is climate?   It&#039;s an average over time.

Well, as we know, the weather is never exactly the same over time.

So, as each year passes, it impacts the climate over time.

Example.

Here is a series of weather numbers:

5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, ...

What is the average?  The average is 5.  The &quot;climate&quot; is five.

Here is a series of weather numbers:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ...

The climate is 3.5

After next year the climate is 4.

The climate is changing due to the weather.

The weather doesn&#039;t &quot;change&quot; due to the &quot;climate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a more devious way to look at the word &#8220;climate&#8221; itself.</p>
<p>What is climate?   It&#8217;s an average over time.</p>
<p>Well, as we know, the weather is never exactly the same over time.</p>
<p>So, as each year passes, it impacts the climate over time.</p>
<p>Example.</p>
<p>Here is a series of weather numbers:</p>
<p>5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, &#8230;</p>
<p>What is the average?  The average is 5.  The &#8220;climate&#8221; is five.</p>
<p>Here is a series of weather numbers:</p>
<p>1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 &#8230;</p>
<p>The climate is 3.5</p>
<p>After next year the climate is 4.</p>
<p>The climate is changing due to the weather.</p>
<p>The weather doesn&#8217;t &#8220;change&#8221; due to the &#8220;climate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev of Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev of Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Editors,

In I hope a similar vein and endorsing earlier observations you have made on the political discourse -

here is a link to an oped piece in our national daily ( Murdoch press )

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25883370-7583,00.html

&quot;Carbon captures UK imagination&quot;

The author is a respected and experienced journalist and editor.

And my reading suggests he has been utterly captured by the zeitgeist within your corridors of power - the undoubted energy of your Mili-Band of Brothers ( and Sisters )  LOL.

&quot;In Whitehall, many of the civil service advisers are young, enthusiasts and women. Behind the parties are tacticians who argue that climate change credentials are critical to carry the under-40 voters. &quot;

That young political apparatchiks want to re-make the world urgently is not surprising.  And, with enough reading, is it surprising to find longterm political correspondents happy to see momentum for change - almost any sort of change - actually snowballing for once ?

The concern of course being - is this change ultimately worthwhile and merited, which is the main debate.

However, I think this article demonstrates from an outsiders perspective why virtually no alternate views on climate and energy policy flow through to the elected representatives.

Your government - and I would dare to suggest a lot of governments in the democratic, developed world - have been captured by one voice.  History suggests that this will not resolve itself happily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Editors,</p>
<p>In I hope a similar vein and endorsing earlier observations you have made on the political discourse -</p>
<p>here is a link to an oped piece in our national daily ( Murdoch press )</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25883370-7583,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25883370-7583,00.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Carbon captures UK imagination&#8221;</p>
<p>The author is a respected and experienced journalist and editor.</p>
<p>And my reading suggests he has been utterly captured by the zeitgeist within your corridors of power &#8211; the undoubted energy of your Mili-Band of Brothers ( and Sisters )  LOL.</p>
<p>&#8220;In Whitehall, many of the civil service advisers are young, enthusiasts and women. Behind the parties are tacticians who argue that climate change credentials are critical to carry the under-40 voters. &#8221;</p>
<p>That young political apparatchiks want to re-make the world urgently is not surprising.  And, with enough reading, is it surprising to find longterm political correspondents happy to see momentum for change &#8211; almost any sort of change &#8211; actually snowballing for once ?</p>
<p>The concern of course being &#8211; is this change ultimately worthwhile and merited, which is the main debate.</p>
<p>However, I think this article demonstrates from an outsiders perspective why virtually no alternate views on climate and energy policy flow through to the elected representatives.</p>
<p>Your government &#8211; and I would dare to suggest a lot of governments in the democratic, developed world &#8211; have been captured by one voice.  History suggests that this will not resolve itself happily.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-resistance.org/2009/08/future-present-imperfect-imperative.html/comment-page-1#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The enviro-mentalists&#039; attitude towards technology is very much like the Papal attitude towards contraception: We support it as long as it doesn&#039;t work!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The enviro-mentalists&#8217; attitude towards technology is very much like the Papal attitude towards contraception: We support it as long as it doesn&#8217;t work!!</p>
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